From Vladimir.Michl@seznam.cz Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:04:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:04:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Vladimir Michl Vladimir.Michl@seznam.cz Subject: Iomega Zip a Debian On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Martin Man wrote: > trivka, staci prekompilovat kernel se scsi support, a pak ve "scsi > devices" dat ppa a imm jako moduly, ppa je udajne pro starsi zipky, imm > pro novejsi, nicmene sem tu novejsi u nas v cr este nevidel.. > > samosebou je treba taky podpora pro paralel port, nejlepe natvrdo do > kernelu, ne jako modul (jinak se ppa a imm v xconfigu nevysviti)... > > no a pak uz jen modprobe ppa a v syslogu se musi objevit > sda: blablabla (popr. sdb, kdyz pouzivate scsi i jinak) > sda0: blablabla... Ja davam kompiluji vse jako moduly (SCSI, SCSI disk, ZIP (ppa, imm), parport). Pak do /etc/modutils/modconf pridam options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 a do /etc/modutils/aliases alias scsi_hostadapter ppa alias block-major-8 sd_mod po zadani update-modules se zmeny promitnou. ********************************************************************** * Name: Vladimir Michl * * E-mail: Vladimir.Michl@seznam.cz * * Web: http://www.penguin.cz/~michlv * * Tel: +420/68/5391545 Work: 068/5711292 * * 068/5391545 Czech Republic * ********************************************************************** From pstehlik@sophics.cz Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:58:21 +0200 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:58:21 +0200 From: Petr Stehlik pstehlik@sophics.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages Zdravim, jednoduchy problem: platime za prenesene megabajty. Ja si obcas udelam apt-get upgrade, stahnu mnoho MB, zaplatime. Potom nekdo dalsi z office prijde a chce taky apt-get upgrade. Ja mam v /var/cache/apt/archive/ vsechny soubory, ktere ted potrebuje on. Jak je znovupouzit? Dneska jsem se pokusil rucne vyrobit Packages (pomoci dpkg-deb -e a pospojovani control files s pridanim radky Filename: jmeno baliku), ale mam krute nejasnosti ohledne /etc/apt/sources.list. I kdyz jsem sachoval s file: pomerne dlouhou dobu, nedokazal jsem mu nasimulovat vsechny ty dists/stable/main/binary-i386 cesty. Vysledkem je, ze apt-get install rika, ze vsechno odinstaluje, ale nic noveho nenainstaluje. Ze jako nejsou zadni instalacni kandidati. Jeste podotykam, ze v tom svem /var/cache/apt mam smesku vseho mozneho z ruznych polooficialnich zdroju .deb, jako napr. novejsi GNOME, X a ted do toho jeste i unstable potato libc a dalsi veci. Otazka: neni nahodou nejaky nastroj na znovupouziti souboru ve /var/cache na jinem stroji? Neni-li, je moje cesta s rucnim vytvarenim Packages spravna? Je-li, jak nastavit sources.list, aby i ostatni zde mohli apt-get upgradnout ze souboru v moji cache? Diky Petr From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:35:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:35:07 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages Petr Stehlik napsal: > Zdravim, >=20 > jednoduchy problem: platime za prenesene megabajty. Ja si obcas udelam > apt-get upgrade, stahnu mnoho MB, zaplatime. Potom nekdo dalsi z office > prijde a chce taky apt-get upgrade. Ja mam v /var/cache/apt/archive/ > vsechny soubory, ktere ted potrebuje on. Jak je znovupouzit? tak bud rucne dpkg -i :)), nebo > Dneska jsem se pokusil rucne vyrobit Packages (pomoci dpkg-deb -e a > pospojovani control files s pridanim radky Filename: jmeno baliku), ale dpkg-scanpackages melo by fungovat cd /var/cache/ap/packages; dpkg-scanpackages . /kde/je/override.potato ./= > Packages s deb file:/var/cache/apt/ packages/ nebo tak nejak. Presne si to napamatuju - podivejte se do vysledneho Pack= ages. override.potato je v adresari indices/ na mirroru - funguje to i bez nej (/dev/null je vhodna volba) > mam krute nejasnosti ohledne /etc/apt/sources.list. I kdyz jsem sachova= l > s file: pomerne dlouhou dobu, nedokazal jsem mu nasimulovat vsechny ty > dists/stable/main/binary-i386 cesty. Vysledkem je, ze apt-get install > rika, ze vsechno odinstaluje, ale nic noveho nenainstaluje. Ze jako > nejsou zadni instalacni kandidati. >=20 > Jeste podotykam, ze v tom svem /var/cache/apt mam smesku vseho > mozneho z ruznych polooficialnich zdroju .deb, jako napr. novejsi > GNOME, X a ted do toho jeste i unstable potato libc a dalsi veci.=20 apt-move je nastroj na vytvoreni lokalniho "mirroru" z baliku v cachi. Ni= kdy jsem ho nepouzil, ale zkuste se na to podivat. > Otazka: neni nahodou nejaky nastroj na znovupouziti souboru ve=20 > /var/cache na jinem stroji? Neni-li, je moje cesta s rucnim vytvarenim viz. vyse. Pak akorat spravne natavit sources.list > Packages spravna? Je-li, jak nastavit sources.list, aby i ostatni=20 > zde mohli apt-get upgradnout ze souboru v moji cache? zalezi na tom, jak budete dane soubory exportovat. ftp, http, nfs Proste spravne nastavit, tj. pozorne precist sources.list(5) a chybove hl= asky apt-get - hlavne to, jaky soubor se snazi stahnout a podle toho doupravit. Petr =C8ech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz From pdm@debian.cz 04 Apr 2000 21:23:01 +0200 Date: 04 Apr 2000 21:23:01 +0200 From: Milan Zamazal pdm@debian.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages >>>>> "PC" =3D=3D Petr Cech p=ED=B9e: PC> apt-move je nastroj na vytvoreni lokalniho "mirroru" z baliku v PC> cachi. Nikdy jsem ho nepouzil, ale zkuste se na to podivat. Ano, apt-move mohu doporu=E8it. Milan Zamazal --=20 "Having GNU Emacs is like having a dragon's cave of treasures." Robert J. Chassell From sucik@ccdec.tuke.sk Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:27:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:27:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Juraj sucik@ccdec.tuke.sk Subject: libreadlineg2 ahojte! preco vo verzii woody nie je kniznica libreadlineg2? From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:41:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:41:20 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: libreadlineg2 Juraj napsal: > ahojte! >=20 > preco vo verzii woody nie je kniznica libreadlineg2? ze stejneho duvodu jako je v potato tato knohovna v oldlibs. (v tomto pripade se nejedna o chybu maintainera, takze nektery balik je v potato a ne ve woodym). Proste vsechno bude prekompileno pro tuto knihovnu. Snaha je to zvladnout= i pro potato, i kdyz se to povede asi jenom u dulezitych (ve smyslu Priorit= y:) baliku. Petr =C8ech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz From pstehlik@sophics.cz Wed, 05 Apr 2000 11:38:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 11:38:52 +0200 From: Petr Stehlik pstehlik@sophics.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages > > vsechny soubory, ktere ted potrebuje on. Jak je znovupouzit? > > tak bud rucne dpkg -i :)), nebo to udelal jako prvni, bohuzel dpkg -i *.deb nezvladlo dependencies a ted ma pul systemu nepouzitelneho, mnoho nedoinstalovanych a nedokonfigurovanych baliku a neni videt vychodisko. Proto se snazime nejak vygenerovat Packages, aby apt videlo zavislosti a neslo do toho tak bezhlave jako dpkg -i. > apt-move je nastroj na vytvoreni lokalniho "mirroru" z baliku v cachi. Nikdy > jsem ho nepouzil, ale zkuste se na to podivat. uz se na to divam asi dve hodiny a jediny vysledek je, ze cast souboru z me /var/cache se ocitla v /mirrors/potato, ale zbytek tvrdosijne rika "Skipping" pri povelu apt-move move. Zrejme patri do jine distribuce nez "slink" a "potato" - asi to bude od www.debian.org/~vincent/ slink-update, ale nedari se mi nastavit apt-move tak, aby to neskipoval. Neprijemne. Petr From pstehlik@sophics.cz Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:55:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:55:08 +0200 From: Petr Stehlik pstehlik@sophics.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages > uz se na to divam asi dve hodiny a jediny vysledek je ... dpkg-scanpackages + absolutni cesta v sources.list pomohly. Nyni zbyva jeste nejak promazat stare verze .deb, od kterych mam i nove a uz to asi bude OK. Petr From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:55:27 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:55:27 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages Petr Stehlik napsal: > > uz se na to divam asi dve hodiny a jediny vysledek je >=20 > ... dpkg-scanpackages + absolutni cesta v sources.list pomohly. Nyni > zbyva jeste nejak promazat stare verze .deb, od kterych mam i nove a uz apt-get autoclean pred tim mozna spustit s parametrem -s (asi) a zkontrolovat, ze opravdu nevymaze nic, co neni potreba. Petr =C8ech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz From karel.krecmer@vsb.cz Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:27:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:27:47 +0200 From: Karel Krecmer karel.krecmer@vsb.cz Subject: Upgrade debianu Ahoj vsichni, jak byste upgradovali unstable debian na kompu, ktery neni pripojeny na inet? Predstavoval bych si, ze 1) Spustim nejaky prikaz, ktery zapise nejak na nejake medium, co mam nainstalovane. 2) Skocim na do skoly na inet, kde na debianu spustim neco, co porovna z media doma nainstalovane a co je na siti a stahne vse co potrebuju pro upgrade na medium. 3) Dojdu dom a z media upgradnu. Proste takovy offline update a install :) diky moc Karel -- Karel Krecmer VSB-TU Ostrava From pstehlik@sophics.cz Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:43:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:43:32 +0200 From: Petr Stehlik pstehlik@sophics.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages > > ... dpkg-scanpackages + absolutni cesta v sources.list pomohly. Nyni > > zbyva jeste nejak promazat stare verze .deb, od kterych mam i nove a uz > > apt-get autoclean > pred tim mozna spustit s parametrem -s (asi) a zkontrolovat, ze opravdu > nevymaze nic, co neni potreba. nenene, musel jsem promazat ten svuj cache archiv, protoze dpkg-scanpackages pri vytvareni Packages z neznameho duvodu preferoval starsi baliky, kdyz nasel dva stejneho jmena. Udelal jsem to rucne, vsechno funguje, konev setri vodou, kamos uz ma plne jedouci Debian a posledni slink s kusama brambor. Diky vsem za rady. Petr From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:46:46 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:46:46 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Upgrade debianu Karel Krecmer napsal: > Ahoj vsichni, >=20 > jak byste upgradovali unstable debian na kompu, ktery neni=20 > pripojeny na inet? Kratka odpoved: pomoci apt-get Delsi: pokud mam na siti pocitac s Debianem, staci si vzit /var/lib/dpkg/status z domaciho kompu a pak spravne nastavit apt (viz. offline.text) Pokud ho nemam, tak lze apt-zip a dokumentace. Petr =C8ech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz From jirik@nescom.cz Wed, 05 Apr 2000 14:41:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 14:41:31 +0200 From: Jirik jirik@nescom.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages Petr Stehlik wrote: > > Otazka: neni nahodou nejaky nastroj na znovupouziti souboru ve > /var/cache na jinem stroji? Neni-li, je moje cesta s rucnim vytvarenim > Packages spravna? Je-li, jak nastavit sources.list, aby i ostatni > zde mohli apt-get upgradnout ze souboru v moji cache? > Jeste jsem videl balik apt-proxy. Zkusil bych ten. -- Zdravi Jiri -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s+:- a-- C++++ UL+++ P+ L+++ E--- W-- N++ o+ K- w--- O- M- V PS+ PE Y PGP- t- 5 X- R* !tv b+++ DI D G++ e+ h-- r++ y++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From pekon@informatics.muni.cz 05 Apr 2000 15:09:42 +0200 Date: 05 Apr 2000 15:09:42 +0200 From: Petr Konecny pekon@informatics.muni.cz Subject: vyrobit Packages >> neni nahodou nejaky nastroj na znovupouziti souboru ve >> /var/cache na jinem stroji? Neni-li, je moje cesta s rucnim vytvarenim >> Packages spravna? Je-li, jak nastavit sources.list, aby i ostatni >> zde mohli apt-get upgradnout ze souboru v moji cache? Mozna by stacilo nainstalovat squid a mit vsude stejne konfiguraky aptu. Pak se ty soubory natahnou jenom jednou do squida a ostatni to budou brat z nej. Petr -- When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From Petr.Stanek@LinuxSystem.cz Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:51:48 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:51:48 +0200 From: Petr Stanek Petr.Stanek@LinuxSystem.cz Subject: Dselect pres SOCK? Zdravim. Bohuzel jsem upgradoval z 8Mb na 64kb + Firewall :-( Probleme je firewall postaveny na SOCK4/5 serveru. Da se pres toto provozovat Dselect? Snek From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:56:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:56:49 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Dselect pres SOCK? Petr Stanek napsal: > Zdravim. >=20 > Bohuzel jsem upgradoval z 8Mb na 64kb + Firewall :-( >=20 > Probleme je firewall postaveny na SOCK4/5 serveru. > Da se pres toto provozovat Dselect? ?? Mas na mysli, jestli existuje nejaka metoda, ktera umi stahovat skez SOCKS4/5. Asi ne, ale pokud pouzivas apt, tak je mu mozne nastavit proxy, to je asi= tak jedine. Petr =C8ech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz From Petr.Stanek@LinuxSystem.cz Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:26:51 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:26:51 +0200 From: Petr Stanek Petr.Stanek@LinuxSystem.cz Subject: Porusena databaze dpkg. Zdravim. Mam vazne poskozenou databazi pro DPKG. (Vypadek HDD) root@snek:/tmp/Snek# dpkg -l | grep wget rc wget 1.5.3-3 utility to retrieve files from the WWW via H root@snek:/tmp/Snek# dpkg -L wget Package `wget' does not contain any files (!) Da se to nejak napravit? Snek From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:32:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:32:32 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Porusena databaze dpkg. Petr Stanek napsal: > Zdravim. >=20 > Mam vazne poskozenou databazi pro DPKG. (Vypadek HDD) :(( > root@snek:/tmp/Snek# dpkg -l | grep wget > rc wget 1.5.3-3 utility to retrieve files from the WW= W > via H > root@snek:/tmp/Snek# dpkg -L wget > Package `wget' does not contain any files (!) >=20 > Da se to nejak napravit? znovu nainstalovat dany balik je asi nejjednodussi reseni. Petr =C8ech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz From sucik@intrak.tuke.sk Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:58:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:58:38 +0200 From: Juraj Sucik sucik@intrak.tuke.sk Subject: libreadlineg2 Petr Cech wrote: > > Juraj napsal: > > ahojte! > > > > preco vo verzii woody nie je kniznica libreadlineg2? > > ze stejneho duvodu jako je v potato tato knohovna v oldlibs. > (v tomto pripade se nejedna o chybu maintainera, takze nektery balik je v > potato a ne ve woodym). > > Proste vsechno bude prekompileno pro tuto knihovnu. Snaha je to zvladnout i > pro potato, i kdyz se to povede asi jenom u dulezitych (ve smyslu Priority:) > baliku. tak preco napr. postgresql-client_7.0-0.beta3-1.deb vo woody vyzaduje tuto kniznicu? From milan@soso.elas.sk Fri, 7 Apr 2000 05:01:39 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 05:01:39 +0200 From: Milan Hromada milan@soso.elas.sk Subject: Accounting Podporuje debian , linux accounting ak ano ako kde otom mozem najst viac -- Milan Hromada tel: +421 (0)862 5151 335 ------------------------- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso From Petr.Stanek@penguin.cz Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:46:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:46:14 +0200 From: Petr Stanek Petr.Stanek@penguin.cz Subject: Accounting Milan Hromada wrote: > > Podporuje debian , linux accounting ano ale o jaky mate zajem? Accounting je velice siroky pojem. Snek From Petr.Stanek@penguin.cz Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:49:58 +0200 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:49:58 +0200 From: Petr Stanek Petr.Stanek@penguin.cz Subject: Accounting Milan Hromada wrote: > > Mam na misli acconting pre userov > > aby som mohol pouzit napr. prikaz lastcomm > a zistit ktore prikazi boli v systeme spustene a kto ich spustil acct-6.3.5-17.deb acct - The GNU Accounting utilities. The GNU Accounting utilities `ac', `accton', `last', `lastcomm', and `sa' add login and process accounting support to Debian Linux. "Login accounting" provides summaries of system resource usage based on connect time, and "process accounting" provides summaries based on the commands executed on the system. The 'last' command is provided by the Debian sysvinit package and not included here. Snek From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:38:33 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:38:33 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: libreadlineg2 Juraj Sucik napsal: > tak preco napr. postgresql-client_7.0-0.beta3-1.deb vo woody vyzaduje > tuto kniznicu? unstable Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz From goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:46:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin 'Goran' Moravec goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: zdrojaky k root.bin, rescue.bin nevite kde najit $SUBJ ? mozna jsem se jen po brambore blbe koukal, ale nenasel jsem je. mozna jsem taky hledal na blbych mistech diky Goran http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~goran please mail me in ASCII ,ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-2 only From Milan.Kocian@cnw.cz 10 Apr 2000 13:11:57 +0200 Date: 10 Apr 2000 13:11:57 +0200 From: Milan.Kocian@cnw.cz Milan.Kocian@cnw.cz Subject: balickovy dotaz Dobry den, mam podezreni na prunik do systemu a chtel bych se zeptat jestli existuje nejaka utilitka na opetovne navaleni binarek do systemu uz z instalovanych baliku pri zachovani stavajicich konfiguracnich souboru. Koukal jsem na dpkg i apt-get a zadnou pouzitelnou volbu jsem nenarazil. Predstavoval bych si to takhle : a)zjisti to naistalovane balicky b)postahuje originaly z mirroru c)preinstaluje nove binarky pres stare bez zmeny konfiguracnich souboru a bez zmeny stavu balicku. Pokud neexistuje, nevi nekdo jak provest bod c) pomoci nejake utilitky. Koukal jsem na dpkg, ale nenasel jsem zadnou podobnou option. V apt-get asi nema cenu hledat, protoze jako instalator pouziva dpkg nebo ne? Pokud by mel nekdo nejakou jinou ideu byl bych mu velice vdecen za napad. S pozdravem Milan Kocian From popovec@zub.fei.tuke.sk Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:17:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:17:54 +0200 From: Peter Popovec popovec@zub.fei.tuke.sk Subject: balickovy dotaz [Posted and mailed] In article <87k8i6tdky.fsf@best.sh.cvut.cz>, Milan.Kocian@cnw.cz writes: > Dobry den, > mam podezreni na prunik do systemu a chtel bych se zeptat jestli > existuje nejaka utilitka na opetovne navaleni binarek do systemu uz z > instalovanych baliku pri zachovani stavajicich konfiguracnich . . > > S pozdravem Milan Kocian 1. dpkg --get-selections |awk '{print $1}' >/tmp/zoznam (zoznam balickov ktore su na systeme instalnute .. editorom odmazat nepotrebne atd . ) 2. for i in `cat /tmp/zoznam`; do apt-get install $i --reinstal; done (pripadne este volba -y .. viz man apt-get) Konfiguracne sub. .. to si musite preist sam :-( nieco sa da zistit z MD5 sum v /var/lib/dpkg/status .. ZDAR From xkavm04@vse.cz 12 Apr 2000 12:25:01 GMT Date: 12 Apr 2000 12:25:01 GMT From: Martin Kavalec xkavm04@vse.cz Subject: gawk a diakritika Zdravim, Mozna to tady bude nekoho zajimat... Narazil jsem na problemy gawku s diakritikou. Srovnanim s jinou instalaci gawku (ne Debian; stejna verze, ale bez multibyte) jsem pojal podezreni a nasledne nasel pricinu. Poslal jsem to do BTS (#62239). 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M=E1m potato na i386 a ppc a zat=EDmco na i386 jsou zadefinovan=E9 oba = dva, na powerpc je definov=E1n jen __linux__. Je v po=F8=E1dku v=B9ude ve zdroj=E1cich programu nahradit __linux za __linux__ nebo nemaj=ED stejn= =FD v=FDznam? Existuje distribuce/architektura, kter=E1 by __linux__ nedefinovala? p=F8edem d=EDky, zdrav=ED Ji=F8=ED Ma=B9=EDk From goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:24:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:24:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin 'Goran' Moravec goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Coda Nevite nekdo proc v debianich distribucich neroste coda? resp. proc mi nosey vratil na coda*.deb pouze veci na ftp.muni.cz (+ este 1 server) anikoli na ftp.debian.cz ? Diky \||/ | @___oo /\ /\ / (__,,,,| ) /^\) ^\/ _) ) /^\/ _) Martin 'Goran' Moravec ) _ / / _) goran@ipp.cas.cz /\ )/\/ || | )_) < > |(,,) )__) || / \)___)\ | \____( )___) )___ \______(_______;;; __;;; From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:32:45 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:32:45 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Coda Martin 'Goran' Moravec napsal: > Nevite nekdo proc v debianich distribucich neroste coda? neni nikdo, kdo by to zabalil. > resp. proc mi nosey vratil na coda*.deb pouze veci na ftp.muni.cz (+ este > 1 server) anikoli na ftp.debian.cz ? nejake starsi jsou v project/experimental. Muze poslouzit jako kostra pro novejsi verse. Zkuste maintainera natuknout, ale echelon ho jeste nezaznamenal, takze je asi MIA Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz * Joy sees a potato running down the street and shouting "I'm late! I'm late!" ;)) From ondrej@sury.cz Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:44:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:44:03 +0200 From: Ondrej Sury ondrej@sury.cz Subject: Dotazek k umisteni v souborovem systemu Caute, mel bych takovy dotaz, kam soupnout jeden adresar podle FHS (nebo toho druheho s delsi zkratkou...). Jestli znas daemontools od djb, tak je to adresar /supervise. Jestli ne, tak se jedna o adresar, ktery je neco jako /etc/init.d/. Tj. souborem /supervise/$package/run se $package spousti (nakonec exec $file) a pokud to spadne, tak se to pusti samo znovu. Ten spravce s podprogramem komunikuje pomoci signalu. V podstate jde o program, ktery zarucuje, aby balik porad bezel. A ted nevim, jestli to mam umistit do:\ /supervise (standard) /etc/supervise (asi nejlepsi varianta) /var/lib/supervise -- Ondrej Sury =20 From pstehlik@sophics.cz Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:53:25 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:53:25 +0200 From: Petr Stehlik pstehlik@sophics.cz Subject: GNOME v Potatu/dyn. knihovny? Zdravim, mel jsem slink, ale zacal jsem davat apt-get install libc6 a tak, a zachutnalo mi to, az jsem nakonec udelal i apt-get gnomba a s ni prijelo cele nove GNOME a jine veci. Ted jsem si chtel dat Gnumeric, ale on chtel s sebou vzit gnome-print a ten nesel zkonfigurovat, protoze potreboval libslang-1.2.2, zatimco ja mel uz v systemu jen libslang-1.3.9. Zkousel jsem nainstalovat libslang-1.2.2, dpkg psal "preparing to downgrade" a pak to cele nekam odeslo do kytek. Takze jsem se chtel zeptat na veci: 1) funguje nekomu Gnumeric (a AbiSuite, kdyz uz jsme u toho) z frozen potata? 2) v systemu nemuzou byt dve ruzne libslang najednou? 3) proc kazdy program potrebuje nejake knihovny, ktere vzdycky nemam? Treba ted jsem stahl netscape.tar.gz a on chtel libneco-1.1.2 a ja uz jsem mel libneco-1.1.3, takze nic nebylo. Celkem dost me to stve (platim za kazdy, i zbytecne stazeny megabajt). Mozna, ze jen neco zasadniho nechapu ohledne dynamicky nahravanych knihoven, takze mi kdyztak poradte. Diky. Petr From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:30:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:30:14 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Dotazek k umisteni v souborovem systemu Ondrej Sury napsal: > > Caute, > > mel bych takovy dotaz, kam soupnout jeden adresar podle FHS > (nebo toho druheho s delsi zkratkou...). Jestli znas daemontools Pokud ti jde o balik daemontools a dnscache, tak v -src.deb jsou na http://www.flounder.net/debs a mozna je mam i u sebe na disku. Ale nejak me ten jeho program zvysil load na 1 v idle :) Inu djb-ware :) > od djb, tak je to adresar /supervise. Jestli ne, tak se jedna > o adresar, ktery je neco jako /etc/init.d/. Tj. souborem > /supervise/$package/run se $package spousti (nakonec exec $file) > a pokud to spadne, tak se to pusti samo znovu. Ten spravce > s podprogramem komunikuje pomoci signalu. V podstate jde o > program, ktery zarucuje, aby balik porad bezel. A ted nevim, > jestli to mam umistit do:\ > /supervise (standard) tak tohle urcite ne > /etc/supervise (asi nejlepsi varianta) OK > /var/lib/supervise hmmm. asi ne Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz "Debian - 3 million penguins can't be wrong." From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:38:02 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:38:02 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: GNOME v Potatu/dyn. knihovny? Petr Stehlik napsal: > Zdravim, > > mel jsem slink, ale zacal jsem davat apt-get install libc6 a tak, a > zachutnalo mi to, az jsem nakonec udelal i apt-get gnomba a s ni prijelo > cele nove GNOME a jine veci. Ted jsem si chtel dat Gnumeric, ale on > chtel s sebou vzit gnome-print a ten nesel zkonfigurovat, protoze > potreboval libslang-1.2.2, zatimco ja mel uz v systemu jen > libslang-1.3.9. jen? 1.3.9 je snad novejsi. A vam se povedl downgrade? Vzdyt to muselo zborit zavislost spousty balicku. > Zkousel jsem nainstalovat libslang-1.2.2, dpkg psal "preparing to balik je slang1_1.2.2 ci _1.3.9 > downgrade" a pak to cele nekam odeslo do kytek. > > Takze jsem se chtel zeptat na veci: > > 1) funguje nekomu Gnumeric (a AbiSuite, kdyz uz jsme u toho) z frozen > potata? gnumeric 0.47 ani gnome-print 0.10-5 z frozen nezavisi na slang1. > 2) v systemu nemuzou byt dve ruzne libslang najednou? ne, protoze maji stejny soname (tedy libslang.so.1) Samozrejme ho lze rucne zvolenemu programu podhodit. > 3) proc kazdy program potrebuje nejake knihovny, ktere vzdycky nemam? kazdy program potrebuje tu knihovnu, oproti ktere byl zkompilovan. Proto existuji distribuce - mate jistotu, ze to bylo zkompilovano s temito knihovnami a ze to bude chodit. > Treba ted jsem stahl netscape.tar.gz a on chtel libneco-1.1.2 a ja uz tak pouzivejte baliky - tohle za vas zadny balickovac nevyresi > jsem mel libneco-1.1.3, takze nic nebylo. Celkem dost me to stve (platim > za kazdy, i zbytecne stazeny megabajt). > > Mozna, ze jen neco zasadniho nechapu ohledne dynamicky nahravanych > knihoven, takze mi kdyztak poradte. Diky. Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz thats \\GNU\Linux$ to you From pstehlik@sophics.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:36:12 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:36:12 +0200 From: Petr Stehlik pstehlik@sophics.cz Subject: GNOME v Potatu/dyn. knihovny? > > potreboval libslang-1.2.2, zatimco ja mel uz v systemu jen > > libslang-1.3.9. > > jen? 1.3.9 je snad novejsi. je, ale je to houby platne. A ja jsem mel pocit, ze 1.2.2, kterou jsem driv mival, uz ted nemam, protoze jsem upgradoval na 1.3.9. Takze proto to slovo "uz jen 1.3.9". > A vam se povedl downgrade? Vzdyt to muselo zborit zavislost spousty balicku. dal jsem jen dpkg -i, zadne premlouvani. Ted mam v /lib 1.2.2 i 1.3.9. > > Zkousel jsem nainstalovat libslang-1.2.2, dpkg psal "preparing to > > balik je slang1_1.2.2 ci _1.3.9 to je pravda, ja jsem jen napsal presne jmeno knihovny, kterou po me nektery program pri spousteni chtel (uz si nepamatuju ktery, a asi to nesouviselo s gnumericem, jak jsem tady minule tvrdil). > > downgrade" a pak to cele nekam odeslo do kytek. jeste k tem kytkam: dival jsem se konecne pozorneji, proc nejde zkonfigurovat gnome-print a zjistil jsem, ze pada v postinstu na Illegal Instruction v gnome-font-install, ktery ma aspon 1kB dlouhy seznam parametru (gnome-font-install bez parametru nepada). Toto bude nejspise moje chyba zavinena smichanim slinku a potata. apt-get upgrade ovsem nabizi stazeni 77 MB, coz si nemuzu dovolit a budu muset cekat na CD :-/ > gnumeric 0.47 ani gnome-print 0.10-5 z frozen nezavisi na slang1. ano, je to jinak. Ten slang1 musel chtit jeste nejaky jiny balik, uz si nepamatuju ktery. gnumeric a gnome-print mi nejedou kvuli gnome-font-install. > > 2) v systemu nemuzou byt dve ruzne libslang najednou? > > ne, protoze maji stejny soname (tedy libslang.so.1) > Samozrejme ho lze rucne zvolenemu programu podhodit. nejsem si jisty, jestli tomu rozumim. > > 3) proc kazdy program potrebuje nejake knihovny, ktere vzdycky nemam? > > kazdy program potrebuje tu knihovnu, oproti ktere byl zkompilovan. Proto > existuji distribuce - mate jistotu, ze to bylo zkompilovano s temito > knihovnami a ze to bude chodit. To je jasne. Zeptam se tedy jinak: proc mozilla.tar.gz pouziva libstdc++-libc6***1.1.2, zatimco Debian ma libstd++-libc6**1.1.3? Tato mozilla funguje okamzite na RedHatu i Mandrake a pravdepodobne i na jinych distribucich, jen Debian musi cekat na Mozilla_M15.deb. Je casta nemoznost pouzivat predkompilovane binarky nejaka vyhoda Debianu? > > Treba ted jsem stahl netscape.tar.gz a on chtel libneco-1.1.2 a ja uz > tak pouzivejte baliky - tohle za vas zadny balickovac nevyresi Stahl jsem uz balik mozilla_M14.deb a naivne jsem doufal, ze ted budu moct placat nove mozilly primo od mozilla.org, protoze M14.deb uz doinstaloval vsechny potrebne knihovny. Holt mylil jsem se. Stejne mi to porad vrta hlavou: mozilla.org binarky funguji vsude krome Debianu, protozeDebian ma mirne odlisne knihovny. Jak to treba dela CorelLinux - jeho uzivatele prece nemuzou byt odvazani z takoveto "vyhody"? Debian pouzivam uz od verze 1.1 a nikdy jsem na nej nedal dopustit (pouzival jsem ho predevsim na serverech). Ovsem ted, kdyz ho mam na desktopu a nutne potrebuji nove verze ruznych programu (mozilla_M14 pada jak hrusky a netscape 4.72 ma hrube chyby), tak me zarazi nepodporovanost Debianu tretimi stranami - v tom smyslu, ze budto si muzu stahnout vsechny mozne baliky krome .deb, anebo je jen linux-libc6.tar.gz, ktery dost casto nefunguje kvuli rozdilu v tretim cisle verze nejake knihovny. Byl bych proto rad, kdyby mi to nekdo par slovy vysvetlil, diky. Petr From goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:53:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:53:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin 'Goran' Moravec goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Logo debianu Loga debianu jsou hezka, lec existuje nejake v cestine??? www.debian.org -- not found www.debian.cz -- not found \||/ | @___oo /\ /\ / (__,,,,| ) /^\) ^\/ _) ) /^\/ _) Martin 'Goran' Moravec ) _ / / _) goran@ipp.cas.cz /\ )/\/ || | )_) < > |(,,) )__) || / \)___)\ | \____( )___) )___ \______(_______;;; __;;; From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:53:50 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:53:50 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: GNOME v Potatu/dyn. knihovny? Petr Stehlik napsal: > To je jasne. Zeptam se tedy jinak: proc mozilla.tar.gz pouziva > libstdc++-libc6***1.1.2, zatimco Debian ma libstd++-libc6**1.1.3? Tato hoo. od kdy? na uptodate woody!! systemu mam libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 (0x40059000) z mozilla M15 - talkback > mozilla funguje okamzite na RedHatu i Mandrake a pravdepodobne i na > jinych distribucich, jen Debian musi cekat na Mozilla_M15.deb. Je casta > nemoznost pouzivat predkompilovane binarky nejaka vyhoda Debianu? u C++ programu je vetsinou stesti, ze chodi s jinym prekompilovanim libstdc= ++ nez s jakym byly prelozeny. > Stejne mi to porad vrta hlavou: mozilla.org binarky funguji vsude krome > Debianu, protoze=1ADebian ma mirne odlisne knihovny. Jak to treba dela me funguji - viz. vyse. libstdc++2.10 asi mate. > CorelLinux - jeho uzivatele prece nemuzou byt odvazani z takoveto uzivatele CorelLinuxu si o prekompilene mozille muzou jen nechat zdat, prot= oze je postaven na glibc-2.0. > "vyhody"? >=20 > Debian pouzivam uz od verze 1.1 a nikdy jsem na nej nedal dopustit > (pouzival jsem ho predevsim na serverech). Ovsem ted, kdyz ho mam na > desktopu a nutne potrebuji nove verze ruznych programu (mozilla_M14 pada > jak hrusky a netscape 4.72 ma hrube chyby), tak me zarazi a jak to, ze alpha verze softwaru a soft. snamy svou padavosti souvisi s ti= m, jak je dobra distribuce. netscape 4.72 se bude chovat vsude stejne - at uz = na RH, Debianu, SuSE, ... > nepodporovanost Debianu tretimi stranami - v tom smyslu, ze budto si > muzu stahnout vsechny mozne baliky krome .deb, anebo je jen > linux-libc6.tar.gz, ktery dost casto nefunguje kvuli rozdilu v tretim > cisle verze nejake knihovny. Byl bych proto rad, kdyby mi to nekdo par > slovy vysvetlil, diky. prachy? za .rpm stoji firma a "logicky" z toho vyplyva, ze kdyz nekdo da penize za CD s RH, tak si k tomu koupi i muj squely soft v .rpm. Vyhodou .d= eb je, ze ho pouziva jenom jedna(*) distribuce a tak vite, ze vam bude chodit(= 2) a nemusita patreat po tom, jestli je jako .rpm pro RH, SuSE, Caldera, Mandr= ake =2E.. Jinak co vam brani si to .rpm zkonvertit do .deb a ten pak (byt treba= ma nektere adresaer spatne) nainstalovat? Petr Cech (*) vim, ze exituje CorelLinux a StormLinux - ty maji ale zaklad presne nej= aky release Debianu a i jejich baliky se ridi policy celkem slusne. (2) az treba na mtv, ktee lze taky sehnat v .deb, ale protoze byl konvertov= an alienem na RH pocitaci a ne na Debianu, tak nema zadne Depends:, coz v pripade, ze nemate xforms je docela chybka. --=20 Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz the UNIX trademark has changed hands so much no one is quite sure wh= o really owns it anymore From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:54:52 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:54:52 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Logo debianu Martin 'Goran' Moravec napsal: > Loga debianu jsou hezka, lec existuje nejake v cestine??? co chcete prekladat na Debian GNU/Linux ? > www.debian.org -- not found > www.debian.cz -- not found www.debian.org/logos/ Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz GNU\Linux on Win32 systems From goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:02:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin 'Goran' Moravec goran@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Logo debianu > > co chcete prekladat na Debian GNU/Linux ? > > www.debian.org/logos/ > Zrovna zde jsou veci co by preklad snesly , (to not found bylo pro nenalezeni ceskych log), Dale by nebylo az tak od veci aby www.debian.cz mel customized logo. (doufam ze webmaster@debian.cz cte) \||/ | @___oo /\ /\ / (__,,,,| ) /^\) ^\/ _) ) /^\/ _) Martin 'Goran' Moravec ) _ / / _) goran@ipp.cas.cz /\ )/\/ || | )_) < > |(,,) )__) || / \)___)\ | \____( )___) )___ \______(_______;;; __;;; From toba@cro.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:09:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:09:41 +0200 From: Tomas Bazant toba@cro.cz Subject: CZdebian-l digest, Vol 1 #375 - 9 msgs > Je v potato k dispozici graficke prostredi KDE? From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:40:46 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:40:46 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: CZdebian-l digest, Vol 1 #375 - 9 msgs Tomas Bazant napsal: > > Je v potato k dispozici graficke prostredi KDE? NE a nebude zatim ani KDE2. Vice viz. archiv bud czdebian-l nebo debian-devel. Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Resistance is futile. You all will be packaged From ondrej@globe.cz Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:55:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:55:31 +0200 From: Ondrej Sury ondrej@globe.cz Subject: Novy CSacek pro novy Apache je tady http://www.sury.cz/Debian/ Uz jsem to posilal i Petrovi. Je s vypnutou podporou komprese a snad uz bude fungovat jak ma, protoze posledni funkcni verze byla 2.1.1 -- Ondrej Sury Globe Internet s.r.o. http://globe.cz/ Tel: +420235365000 Fax: +420235365009 Planickova 1, 162 00 Praha 6 Mob: +420602667702 ICQ: 24944126 Mapa: http://globe.namape.cz/ NAJDI.TO http://najdi.to/ PRESS.CZ http://press.cz/ From Jan.Schier@esat.kuleuven.ac.be Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:28:14 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:28:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jan Schier Jan.Schier@esat.kuleuven.ac.be Subject: GNOME v Potatu/dyn. knihovny? > > To je jasne. Zeptam se tedy jinak: proc mozilla.tar.gz pouziva > > libstdc++-libc6***1.1.2, zatimco Debian ma libstd++-libc6**1.1.3? Tato > > hoo. od kdy? na uptodate woody!! systemu mam > libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 > (0x40059000) > z mozilla M15 - talkback Mohu potvrdit! - od minuleho tydne, kdy jsem si Potato take instaloval.. Honza -- Jan Schier KU Leuven ESAT/SISTA tel. +32-16-321817 On leave from Inst. of Information Theory & Automation (UTIA AV CR) Prague, Czech Republic From davro@ics.muni.cz 20 Apr 2000 16:58:36 +0200 Date: 20 Apr 2000 16:58:36 +0200 From: David Rohleder davro@ics.muni.cz Subject: Logo debianu "Martin 'Goran' Moravec" writes: > > > > co chcete prekladat na Debian GNU/Linux ? > > > > www.debian.org/logos/ > > > Zrovna zde jsou veci co by preklad snesly , (to not found bylo pro > nenalezeni ceskych log), > co vam brani to udelat? Mne osobne se debianove loga vubec nelibi. Snad krome open use loga. Slepice byla lepsi :-) > > Dale by nebylo az tak od veci aby www.debian.cz mel customized logo. To jako jak? > (doufam ze webmaster@debian.cz cte) Projektu Debian CZ/SK se hodne nedostava lidskych zdroju. Klidne se muzete pridat se svou troskou do mlyna. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Rohleder davro@ics.muni.cz Institute of Computer Science, Masaryk University Brno, Czech Republic ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From peroutka@okd.cz Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:08:52 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:08:52 +0200 From: Vaclav Peroutka peroutka@okd.cz Subject: Dselect pres SOCK? deselect umi taky pres proxy : export http_proxy="jmeno_serveru:port" dselect A uz to chodi. Petr Cech píše v diskusním příspěvku:20000406155649.B5885@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz... > Petr Stanek napsal: > > Zdravim. > > > > Bohuzel jsem upgradoval z 8Mb na 64kb + Firewall :-( > > > > Probleme je firewall postaveny na SOCK4/5 serveru. > > Da se pres toto provozovat Dselect? > > ?? Mas na mysli, jestli existuje nejaka metoda, ktera umi stahovat skez > SOCKS4/5. > Asi ne, ale pokud pouzivas apt, tak je mu mozne nastavit proxy, to je asi tak > jedine. > > Petr Čech > -- > Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} > cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz > > > ________________________________________________ > CZdebian-l maillist - CZdebian-l@debian.cz > http://www.debian.cz/mailman/listinfo/czdebian-l > E-mail (un)subscriptions: czdebian-l-request@debian.cz From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:27:45 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:27:45 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Dselect pres SOCK? Vaclav Peroutka napsal: > deselect umi taky pres proxy : ne dselect NEUMI proxy. http metoda pro apt ano. > export http_proxy="jmeno_serveru:port" /etc/apt/apt.conf Acquire { http { Proxy "http://nejaka.proxy.cz:3128"; No-Cache "false"; No-Store "false"; }; }; > dselect Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz "What do you mean it's not packaged in Debian?" From peroutka@okd.cz Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:12:06 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:12:06 +0200 From: Vaclav Peroutka peroutka@okd.cz Subject: Dselect pres SOCK? Jiste a dselect tuto metodu obsahuje, ja takhle instaloval vsechny aplikace ve Slinku a to nemam prime pripojeni do internetu, ale skrz Squid. Popis je na http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/ch-dselect-main.cs.html a presne podle toho mi to tak fungovalo. Normalne bych se nehadal, ale zrovna ted vim, o cem mluvim, navic jsem to zkousel "na vlastni kuzi". A uspesne. Petr Cech píse v diskusním příspěvku:20000421122745.B23491@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz... > Vaclav Peroutka napsal: > > deselect umi taky pres proxy : > > ne dselect NEUMI proxy. http metoda pro apt ano. > > > export http_proxy="jmeno_serveru:port" > > /etc/apt/apt.conf > Acquire > { > http > { > Proxy "http://nejaka.proxy.cz:3128"; > No-Cache "false"; > No-Store "false"; > }; > }; > > > dselect > > Petr Cech > -- > Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} > cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz > > "What do you mean it's not packaged in Debian?" > > > ________________________________________________ > CZdebian-l maillist - CZdebian-l@debian.cz > http://www.debian.cz/mailman/listinfo/czdebian-l > E-mail (un)subscriptions: czdebian-l-request@debian.cz From pdm@debian.cz 20 Apr 2000 20:43:23 +0200 Date: 20 Apr 2000 20:43:23 +0200 From: Milan Zamazal pdm@debian.cz Subject: Logo debianu >>>>> "M'M" =3D=3D Martin 'Goran' Moravec p=ED=B9e: M'M> Dale by nebylo az tak od veci aby www.debian.cz mel customized M'M> logo. (doufam ze webmaster@debian.cz cte) Ne=E8ekejte, =BEe se v=A0tom budu n=ECjak anga=BEovat. Jednak logo Deb= ianu pova=BEuji za velmi =B9patn=E9 (je to typick=FD n=E1sledek toho, kdy=BE= o=A0n=EC=E8em rozhoduje n=ECkdo nekompetentn=ED), tak=BEe nem=E1 cenu se j=EDm bl=ED= =BEe zab=FDvat, a=A0jednak u=BE i=A0bez loga www.debian.cz si spousta lid=ED myln=EC my= sl=ED, =BEe existuje n=ECco jako distribuce Debian=A0CZ/SK. Nen=ED c=EDlem se od Debianu odli=B9it, n=FDbr=BE b=FDt jeho sou=E8=E1s= t=ED. Milan Zamazal --=20 "Having GNU Emacs is like having a dragon's cave of treasures." Robert J. Chassell From zdenek.kral@iol.cz Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:53:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:53:40 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-2?B?TVVEci5aZGVu7GsgS3LhbA==?= zdenek.kral@iol.cz Subject: skcz-slink This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BFAD4C.DBB8BBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pekny den, muze mi nekdo poradit jak napravit rozpadnute ramecky v MC po = nainstalovani baliku skcz-link,i kdyz man nastaven=E9 8bit I/Oput? s diky Zdenek = zdenek.kral@iol.cz ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BFAD4C.DBB8BBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BFAD4C.DBB8BBE0-- From mvasko@mail.viapvt.sk Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:29:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:29:22 +0000 From: Miroslav Vasko mvasko@mail.viapvt.sk Subject: skcz-slink On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 05:53:40PM +0200, MUDr.Zdeněk Král wrote: > muze mi nekdo poradit jak napravit rozpadnute ramecky v MC po nainstalovani baliku skcz-link,i kdyz man nastavené 8bit I/Oput? toto je "vlastnost" kodovej stranky iso8859-2, skratka neobsahuje ciarovu grafiku. mc sa da spustit s parametrom "-a", ktory sposobi pouzivanie 7bitovych ramcekov. Miro. -- .~. Miroslav Vasko /V\ vasko@debian.cz, vasko@debian.sk // \\ /( )\ Debian GNU/Linux SK ^^-^^ http://www.debian.cz/slovak/ From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:47:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:47:46 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: skcz-slink MUDr.Zden=ECk Kr=E1l napsal: > Pekny den, > muze mi nekdo poradit jak napravit rozpadnute ramecky v MC po nainstalo= vani baliku skcz-link,i kdyz man nastaven=E9 8bit I/Oput? tohle by melo jit vyresit unicodovymi fonty. Me chodi cestina i ramecky O= K (pomoci ucw). Petr Cech --=20 Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz GNU\Linux on Win32 systems From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:48:24 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:48:24 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: skcz-slink Miroslav Vasko napsal: (neco) Muzu poprat stastny navrat z vojny? Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz We Are Debian. You Will Be Packaged. Media Opinion Is Irrelevant. From roofer@post.cz Tue, 25 Apr 2000 05:44:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 05:44:34 +0200 From: roofer@post.cz roofer@post.cz Subject: GNU Debian Linux od CPressu Dobry den. Cetl jsem si annonci na GNU Debian Linux 2.1 CZ/SK na 5ti cd vydane vloni v Computer Pressu. Zaujala mne veta, ze 1. binarni CD je podmnozinou originalniho Slinkoveho cd. Otazka 1.: Opravdu tam nejake baliky chybi? Otazka 2.: Nejsou jenom presunute na jine cdcko? Otazka 3.: V chystanem potatu se take budou nejake baliky odstranovat? Otazka 4.: Proc? S pozdravem Mirek Bauer Pripojte se zdarma k internetu: *** http://VOLNY.CZ From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:26:42 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:26:42 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: GNU Debian Linux od CPressu roofer@post.cz napsal: > Dobry den. > > Cetl jsem si annonci na GNU Debian Linux 2.1 CZ/SK na 5ti cd vydane vloni v Computer Pressu. > Zaujala mne veta, ze 1. binarni CD je podmnozinou originalniho Slinkoveho cd. > > Otazka 1.: Opravdu tam nejake baliky chybi? jiste, prroc by jinak bylo jeste plne 2. binaryni? > Otazka 2.: Nejsou jenom presunute na jine cdcko? viz. vyse > Otazka 3.: V chystanem potatu se take budou nejake baliky odstranovat? :)) ne > Otazka 4.: Proc? Proc ano? Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Obviously the only rational solution to your problem is suicide. From josef.holecek@ct.cz Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:53:06 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:53:06 +0200 From: josef.holecek@ct.cz josef.holecek@ct.cz Subject: Prosba Jsem zacinajici Lunuxar a nainstaloval jsem si nejake graficke servry. To by bylo docela v poradku, ale sotva se ten sever nastartuje a objevi se mi prohlasovaci okno s nejakym tucnakem, prestane mi chodit klavesnice. Stacilo by mi, kdyby me nekdo poradil jak nastartovat ten Debian v init 1 aby se nespustila grafika a ja bych uz vedel co s tim dal. Startuju pomoci diskety. Diky za odpoved JR. From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:47:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:47:52 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: update debian-czsk Ahoj, proveld jsem mirnou restruktualizaci (presuny) v debian-czsk/dists. 1) adresare se jmenuji jako distribuce + patricne symlinky 2) potato - prekompileni csacku 2.1.4-2 pro potato 3) woody - odstraneni csacku, je v distribuci Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz the UNIX trademark has changed hands so much no one is quite sure who really owns it anymore From josef.holecek@ct.cz Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:58:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:58:12 +0200 From: josef.holecek@ct.cz josef.holecek@ct.cz Subject: sit Nepodarilo se mi pri instalaci rozchodit sitovku protoze mi to hazelo chybu nespravny parametr io i kdyz ho vyzadoval. Jak se rozchodi v nainstalovanem linuxu. sitovka je 3Com EtherLink XL COMBO 10Mb Ethernet NIC (dosovskej ovladac: 3C900-COMBO). Dik za radu JR. From jelinekp@fzu.cz Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:08:11 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:08:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: jelen jelinekp@fzu.cz Subject: sit v jadre (zalezi na versi ) by mela byt primo podpora pro danou sitovku. moznost zkompilovat jako modul ne bo staticky. potom je mozne pri bootu zadat (pro volbe jako modul) do /etc/modules radku (napr. viz dokumentace pro odpovidajici nastaveni): 3c59x.o (zalezi na jmene modulu tebou zkompilovanem) options=8 debug=4 jinak ovladace pro 3com pise jisty donald becker z NASA, takze pres libovolny prohlizec navstivit jeho www-site a tam je vse podrobne popsano zdravi jel On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 josef.holecek@ct.cz wrote: > Nepodarilo se mi pri instalaci rozchodit sitovku protoze mi to hazelo > chybu nespravny parametr io i kdyz ho vyzadoval. Jak se rozchodi v > nainstalovanem linuxu. sitovka je 3Com EtherLink XL COMBO 10Mb Ethernet > NIC (dosovskej ovladac: 3C900-COMBO). > > Dik za radu JR. > > > ________________________________________________ > CZdebian-l maillist - CZdebian-l@debian.cz > http://www.debian.cz/mailman/listinfo/czdebian-l > E-mail (un)subscriptions: czdebian-l-request@debian.cz > From cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:11:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:11:30 +0200 From: Petr Cech cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz Subject: Prosba josef.holecek@ct.cz napsal: > Jsem zacinajici Lunuxar a nainstaloval jsem si nejake graficke servry. > To by bylo docela v poradku, ale sotva se ten sever nastartuje a objevi > se mi prohlasovaci okno s nejakym tucnakem, prestane mi chodit > klavesnice. Stacilo by mi, kdyby me nekdo poradil jak nastartovat ten nepridaval jste pocet konzoli? tj. nestaruje vam na tty7 getty a jeste xdm? > Debian v init 1 aby se nespustila grafika a ja bych uz vedel co s tim parametr 1 pro jadro (tj. linux 1). Tohle nahodi zadost o heslo roota. linux init=/bin/bash bahodi JENOM bash a fs bude asi read-only. Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux maintainer - www.debian.{org,cz} cech@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz * Joy sees a potato running down the street and shouting "I'm late! I'm late!" ;)) From Roman.Rybicki@trz.cz Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:03:33 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:03:33 +0200 From: Roman Rybicki Roman.Rybicki@trz.cz Subject: upgrade Dobry den. Nainstalovan slink (debian gnu linux2.1). Cestina a tisk OK jak na konsoli tak v xkach (KDE). Zachtelo se mi novot. V prikazovem radku zadano: apt-get update apt-get install console-apt apt-get install mc Nainstalovaly se balicky: apt_0.3.18 console-apt_0.7.7 lsdo_1.9.11-7 libc6-dev_2.1.3-8 libc6_2.1.3-8 libncurses5_5.0-6 libstdc++2.10_1 mc_common_4.5.42-16 mc_4.5.42-16 Pri konfiguraci mc se objevila hlaska: ------------------------------------- perl: warning: Setting locale failed perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = "cs_CZ.ISO-8859-2" LC_CTYPE = "cs" LANG = "cs" are supported and instaled on your system perl:warning: Falling back to the standard locale "C" -------------------------------------- Ted mam sice cesky mc a novou consoli apt , ale za to v KDE nejde napsat cesky pismena s hacky (po zmacknuti klaves 2,3,4,5,6 se nezobrazuje nic). Kdybych mel spatne nastavene locales, nefungovalo by ani predtim. Nebo se pletu? Poradte, prosim, kde delam chybu. Roman Rybicki From sunnyday@gmx.ch Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:04:47 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:04:47 +0200 From: Xeon sunnyday@gmx.ch Subject: Ako instalovat debianovske baliky do Corel Linuxu Mam nainstalovany Corel Linux 1.0 a chcel by som do neho instalovat nejake baliky z Debian GNU Linuxu 2.1. Ako na to? Skusal som dselect, ale som z toho jelen. Vzdy sa nieo pokazi. Skusal som aj Corel Update, ale tiez mi vzdy vypisuje Instalation Failed. Prosim poradte mi niektro. From m.forman@wb.utwente.nl Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:35:54 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:35:54 +0200 From: Matej Forman m.forman@wb.utwente.nl Subject: Ako instalovat debianovske baliky do Corel Linuxu Xeon wrote: > > Mam nainstalovany Corel Linux 1.0 a chcel by som do neho instalovat nejake > baliky z Debian GNU Linuxu 2.1. Ako na to? Skusal som dselect, ale som z > toho jelen. Vzdy sa nieo pokazi. Skusal som aj Corel Update, ale tiez mi > vzdy vypisuje Instalation Failed. Prosim poradte mi niektro. Mam taky corel linux :+( a funguje to :+). pokud hlasi Installation failed, patrne je problem s dependency. Corel Update je jenom hezka grafika k debianovskemu spravci baliku dpkg (viz man dpkg). Postupem casu pouzivam uz jenom dpkg, ktery poskytuje vice moznosti jak mit kontrolu nad baliky. takze co se nepovedlo nainstalovat, navrhuju dpkg --status [nazevbaliku] a hned clovek vidi. matej From pdm@debian.cz 28 Apr 2000 21:48:17 +0200 Date: 28 Apr 2000 21:48:17 +0200 From: Milan Zamazal pdm@debian.cz Subject: upgrade >>>>> "RR" =3D=3D Roman Rybicki p=ED=B9e: RR> Pri konfiguraci mc se objevila hlaska: RR> ------------------------------------- RR> perl: warning: Setting locale failed RR> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: RR> LC_ALL =3D "cs_CZ.ISO-8859-2" RR> LC_CTYPE =3D "cs" RR> LANG =3D "cs" RR> are supported and instaled on your system RR> perl:warning: Falling back to the standard locale "C" RR> -------------------------------------- Zkuste upgradovat bal=ED=E8ek `locales' (m=ECl by m=EDt stejnou verzi j= ako libc6). Milan Zamazal --=20 "Having GNU Emacs is like having a dragon's cave of treasures." Robert J. Chassell From pdm@debian.cz 28 Apr 2000 21:51:20 +0200 Date: 28 Apr 2000 21:51:20 +0200 From: Milan Zamazal pdm@debian.cz Subject: Ako instalovat debianovske baliky do Corel Linuxu >>>>> "X" =3D=3D Xeon p=ED=B9e: X> Mam nainstalovany Corel Linux 1.0 a chcel by som do neho X> instalovat nejake baliky z Debian GNU Linuxu 2.1. Ako na to? X> Skusal som dselect, ale som z toho jelen. Vzdy sa nieo X> pokazi. Skusal som aj Corel Update, ale tiez mi vzdy vypisuje X> Instalation Failed. Prosim poradte mi niektro. Z=A0tohoto popisu lze jen st=EC=BE=ED poznat, v=A0=E8em je probl=E9m. Ka=BEdop=E1dn=EC nejjednodu=B9=B9=ED je instalovat p=F8es apt (zejm=E9n= a jste-li on-line) nebo z=A0p=F8=EDkazov=E9 =F8=E1dky p=F8=EDmo pomoc=ED dpkg. P= ou=BE=EDvat sofistikovan=ECj=B9=ED rozhran=ED se vyplat=ED jenom p=F8i slo=BEit=ECj= =B9=EDch (de)instala=E8n=EDch akc=EDch. Milan Zamazal --=20 "Having GNU Emacs is like having a dragon's cave of treasures." Robert J. Chassell From garabik@melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk.spam 30 Apr 2000 17:28:12 GMT Date: 30 Apr 2000 17:28:12 GMT From: Radovan Garabik garabik@melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk.spam Subject: Ako instalovat debianovske baliky do Corel Linuxu Xeon wrote: : Mam nainstalovany Corel Linux 1.0 a chcel by som do neho instalovat nejake : baliky z Debian GNU Linuxu 2.1. Ako na to? Skusal som dselect, ale som z : toho jelen. Vzdy sa nieo pokazi. Skusal som aj Corel Update, ale tiez mi : vzdy vypisuje Instalation Failed. Prosim poradte mi niektro. ja som nainstaloval corel linux 1.1 a instalovat *.deb isli bez problemov. do /etc/apt/sources.list som dal adresy debianu a fungoval ako dselect, apt-get, tak aj Corel Update. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | ----------------------------------------------------------- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!